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October
12
2007
4:52 pm
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I thought I’d pose a query to the masses (I’m pretty sure the space goes between the e and the m, and not the m and the a) about a recent situation involving a question Jaden asked me and the answer I gave.

The time I spend with Jaden (5yrs old at time of writing) in the mornings, getting ready and waiting at the bus stop, is priceless.  He’s so aware of everything (”look at that rabbit!”, “it’s cooler outside, Dad…”) and very appreciative of the things he sees.  He also asks those questions of life that adults don’t think about so much (”why is it so dark now?” and “do you like going to work?”) and is already planning his day (”we have PE today and we’re going to play with the parachute. I love the parachute”, “Can we go bowling after school?”).  Some of his comments make me wonder what the kids talk about at school (”yesterday the chocolate kid hit me”) so I perform interference and investigate a little when required.

Sometimes Jupiter waits with us, and that’s special in itself.

jaden jupiter bus stop

On occasion, Caitlin (now 13) will wait with us because she wants to get to school earlier than the bus would have her get there.  Despite the extra 30 miles it puts on our car and our budget, I sometimes submit to the request.  A dad’s gotta do what a dad’s gotta do.

This past week, Jaden made clear that Caitlin had gotten on his nerves.  I’m not saying it’s on purpose or one is right or anything; it just happens with siblings.  So one morning, Jaden just looks over and says “I don’t want Caitlin living with us any more. I don’t like her.”

Now, I *know* he doesn’t really mean it.  I think he’s testing out his thought processes and, like most children, hasn’t developed his internal filter yet.  Some people never do - you know who I’m talking about, probably — people who will say anything to anyone and not realize what it may come off like. 

So at the time, I reassured him, and said something like “oh, you don’t really mean that.  Caitlin loves you and [blahblah]”  Of course, I meant the words I told him; I just don’t recall the exact words I used.  But he was ok, I was ok, and all was right in the world and we could go back to our discovery of life, the bus stop and oooh, there’s a SPIDER!

Totally unrelated to the aforementioned encounter and conversation, over the two nights following this conversation, Caitlin spends the night at a friend’s house.  As a result, she’s not home at all other than to pick up toothbrush, clothes, etc, so Jaden doesn’t see her.

Jaden asks the next day “where’s Caitlin?”


Now the dilemma.  I wanted to say something like “Well, you said you didn’t want her living with us anymore, so she’s not here.”  I want it to sink in how his words mean something, and realize how serious his wishes might be.  I wouldn’t have carried it too far - I just want to teach a lesson of sorts.  I can imagine his eyes getting big like “what?”.  It’s like when a kid tries a cigarette and the punishment is to make him smoke 3 of them in a row so he hates it and teaches him you don’t always realize what you want - except without the nicotine, not to mention second-hand smoke I’d have to endure.


I didn’t.  At the time I just said, “oh, she’s over at so-and-so’s house”.  But I keep thinking about the answer I wanted to give.

What say you?

And lo, the people did comment thus:

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October
12
2007
8:16 pm

For me, half the fun of having kids would be torturing them, so I would have totally said that you shipped his sister off to Southeast Asia. :-)

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October
13
2007
7:25 am

Wayne, you need to take a bit more of a psychology approach to this one. He won’t learn anything if you say something like, “Oh well, you didn’t want her living with us.”

Get to the nuts and bolts of it. Sit him down and ask him why he doesn’t want her living with you all. Listen to what he has to say. He’s five, so he won’t articulate it well. Then, talk to him about his concerns, in a five year old kind of way. This is a good opportunity to start teaching him how to get along with people that have more power over him. You don’t have to teach him to submit to her. You can take this opportunity to start teaching him how to deal with conflict, as best he can at his age, and to appropriately state his feelings. he’s not going to get it totally, because he is five, but at least you are starting the process. He is at the age where it all begins; he learns respect, how to stand up for himself, creates his self-esteem, etc. Child memories mostly begin and stick around age five, so this is why it is important to start teaching him these lessons at his current age. Although we all have memories from before five, five is when they really stick for the most part.

Sorry to be so “not funny” on this one, but you know my past and history, and I know more about what NOT to do, which has taught me what TO do. Plus, 18 years of therapy has also taught me about what to teach a child at what age.

So take this opportunity to start molding his little brain on dealing with conflict. Don’t make it too serious; he’s still five. But mold him now. By the time he is 12, it’s too late to start.

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October
13
2007
3:01 pm

You handled it fine. He’s five. At five they want to be the center of the universe. Scaring the shit out of him? Not so much. Don’t sweat the small stuff. Wait until he’s 19 and steals your credit card to buy his dorm floor pizzas. Then torturing is appropriate.

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October
14
2007
7:13 am

As I’ve obviously chosen not to further populate this world with my spawn I’m just here to say “*squeeee*, You’re funny!” … I just read your last comment on my blog. :o) Thanks!

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October
14
2007
9:48 am

Dave2, yeah, that’s a good one but since we told his sister she *came from* southeast asia as part of the black market, we’re afraid that Jaden would think she’s just rebelling and going home.

Absurdist, I like Dave’s idea better. You’re *way* too serious :). (Whisper: Seriously tho I’ll consider your tips, they sound good)

Christine, I hope he has his own credit cards by then and the credit card companies can torture him.

Michelle, I can never get enough squee on my comments.n so stop by anytime. I love your cab stories!

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October
14
2007
10:51 am

You did the right thing. If he asked her whereabouts, he cares. And that’s as good as it gets for 5. The psychology of it all can wait a few years.

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October
14
2007
10:56 am

sourpuss, I must say he’s a very caring soul. He empathizes and cares more than I ever thought a five year old could.

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October
15
2007
10:05 am

I think it’s hard enough for kids that age to learn the repercussions of actions. Learning the repercussions of words is probably something for a slightly older kid.

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October
17
2007
10:28 am

Oh, my… this has brought to mind something I did with my own child (and will probably go to hell for). I think I feel a blog post coming on… ;)

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October
17
2007
10:31 am

Avi, so true.

sue, are *you* that parent who set their kids hands on fire with a little bit of lighter fluid to teach them not to play with fire?

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October
17
2007
11:04 am

[…] few days ago Wayne had a post and a parenting question It trigger the memory of an incident in our family that I will probably go […]

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October
17
2007
4:56 pm

When my 2 children suggest that I send 1 or the other off, I tell them I tried already and they found their way back. Then I get them involved as if I would really do this and ask them to help me come up with a plan as to where to send the other one and let them go into great detail. It’s sometimes quite scary how they think.

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