Comments on: Open Letter to Microsoft Vista Developers http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/ Come on in and stay a while... laugh a little. Maybe even think. Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:38:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Raganator http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-44142 Raganator Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:38:57 +0000 http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/#comment-44142 I still hate vista cause most of the goofy yahoo games I want to play aren't compatible dang it I still hate vista cause most of the goofy yahoo games I want to play aren’t compatible dang it

]]> By: Winter http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-44138 Winter Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:48:45 +0000 http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/#comment-44138 I'll eventually end up on Vista. At the moment my 52 nodes will stay on XP. I have too many user issues to roll out Vista to them. They can't even find a file they save 2 minutes before and I'm gonna give them Vista? I think not... yet anyway. As for Avitable's remark about the OS requiring so much RAM... Dude, this has been the case since Windows 3.1. Each succeeding MS OS has used more memory than the prior incarnation to the point that people always howl about how much is required to run it. When XP came out, I could hear the howls of outrage across the net about how much more memory was needed than Win2K. But Win2K couldn't have run all those fancy ass games that developers were making. The apps progress and require more RAM and so does the OS. At least in the MS world it does... Whall, I'm glad your migration went so well. I expect some issues when we roll it out, but we'll do it in stages and it won't be too bad. I'll probably be the first one with it. Winters last blog post..<a href="http://www.sunlightsucks.com/2008/hotties-again/" rel="nofollow">Hotties Again</a> I’ll eventually end up on Vista. At the moment my 52 nodes will stay on XP. I have too many user issues to roll out Vista to them. They can’t even find a file they save 2 minutes before and I’m gonna give them Vista? I think not… yet anyway.
As for Avitable’s remark about the OS requiring so much RAM… Dude, this has been the case since Windows 3.1. Each succeeding MS OS has used more memory than the prior incarnation to the point that people always howl about how much is required to run it. When XP came out, I could hear the howls of outrage across the net about how much more memory was needed than Win2K. But Win2K couldn’t have run all those fancy ass games that developers were making. The apps progress and require more RAM and so does the OS. At least in the MS world it does…
Whall, I’m glad your migration went so well. I expect some issues when we roll it out, but we’ll do it in stages and it won’t be too bad. I’ll probably be the first one with it.

Winters last blog post..Hotties Again

]]> By: dmarks http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-44137 dmarks Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:25:31 +0000 http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/#comment-44137 Will that work with standard file search syntax? Where filename:stats will find a file named "stats", fiilename stats*.* fill find any beginning with stats, and file name:*stats*.* finds any file with stats in the name anywhere? dmarkss last blog post..<a href="http://inaholdingpattern.blogspot.com/2008/06/butlerian-jihad.html" rel="nofollow">Butlerian Jihad</a> Will that work with standard file search syntax? Where filename:stats will find a file named “stats”, fiilename stats*.* fill find any beginning with stats, and file name:*stats*.* finds any file with stats in the name anywhere?

dmarkss last blog post..Butlerian Jihad

]]> By: whall http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-44136 whall Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:48:58 +0000 http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/#comment-44136 <b>Dash</b>, I thought SP1 actually changed the underlying kernel to the Windows Server 2008 one... *looking*, yup, <a href="http://apcmag.com/microsoft_replaces_vista_kernel_in_sp1.htm" rel="nofollow">Microsoft replaces Vista kernel in SP1</a>. SP1 also fixed serious suspend/resume issues, which would be absolutely key for me and is one of the reasons I wanted to get out of XP. What issues were you having that SP1 didn't fix? Also I should point out that I didn't install Vista and *then* SP1... I installed the "Vista w/SP1 built-in" image. And I installed the available-through-SA-only Vista Enterprise, which adds complete laptop encryption. <b>dmarks</b>, hmm, I don't have that problem. I just type in "stats" for example and my results in the start menu overlay include all the files with the letters "stats" in them or results that have stats in the document/email/web page. But you are probably ask for something in the filename itself, NOT stuff *in* the file. Right? So use one of the properties delimiters (filename). for example, "filename:stats" <br> <img src="http://whall.org/blog/files/vista-search-stats.jpg" /><br /> <br /> You can see it's giving me only web pages that have "stats" in the TITLE tag, files with "stats" in the filename and emails with "stats" in the subject. You can get more info on the advanced command-line shortcuts available from <a href="http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/pages/advanced-search-techniques.aspx" rel="nofollow">windowsvistablog.com.</a> Also, you may want to rebuild your index if it isn't finding what you know is there. Unless you're trying to find something that isn't indexed, like Program Files or the Windows directory. Dash, I thought SP1 actually changed the underlying kernel to the Windows Server 2008 one… *looking*, yup, Microsoft replaces Vista kernel in SP1. SP1 also fixed serious suspend/resume issues, which would be absolutely key for me and is one of the reasons I wanted to get out of XP. What issues were you having that SP1 didn’t fix? Also I should point out that I didn’t install Vista and *then* SP1… I installed the “Vista w/SP1 built-in” image. And I installed the available-through-SA-only Vista Enterprise, which adds complete laptop encryption.

dmarks, hmm, I don’t have that problem. I just type in “stats” for example and my results in the start menu overlay include all the files with the letters “stats” in them or results that have stats in the document/email/web page.

But you are probably ask for something in the filename itself, NOT stuff *in* the file. Right? So use one of the properties delimiters (filename). for example, “filename:stats”

You can see it’s giving me only web pages that have “stats” in the TITLE tag, files with “stats” in the filename and emails with “stats” in the subject.

You can get more info on the advanced command-line shortcuts available from windowsvistablog.com.

Also, you may want to rebuild your index if it isn’t finding what you know is there. Unless you’re trying to find something that isn’t indexed, like Program Files or the Windows directory.

]]> By: dmarks http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-44135 dmarks Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:28:05 +0000 http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/#comment-44135 Whall, I thought you were sarcastic about loving Vista search. I can't get an easy searc for *filename*.* to work on it, and in order to search in every directory I have to dig into buried "advanced" options and turn them on each time. I hardly ever bother. Even when I do that, the files never turn up. dmarkss last blog post..<a href="http://inaholdingpattern.blogspot.com/2008/06/bridge-out.html" rel="nofollow">Bridge Out</a> Whall, I thought you were sarcastic about loving Vista search. I can’t get an easy searc for *filename*.* to work on it, and in order to search in every directory I have to dig into buried “advanced” options and turn them on each time. I hardly ever bother. Even when I do that, the files never turn up.

dmarkss last blog post..Bridge Out

]]> By: Dash http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-44133 Dash Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:54:08 +0000 http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/#comment-44133 Hmm, I installed Vista on my computer and decided that I'd stick with it or go back to XP once SP1 comes out, well, bummer. I don't really agree with Dave on that one simply because I've never had a hard time on Vista and I'm also a graphic designer, I prefer having My CONTROL and ALT work the way they should instead of having 2 bajillion keys to push just to get a "shortcut" going, but I guess that's just how people get used to work. Vista doesn't look tacky, come on! If anything looks tacky is Pre-tiger OSX and Windows XP default themes. But in the end, seriously I went back to XP. Vista seriously blows and the only reason why it's actually on the market is because all manufacturers are getting subsidised by Microsoft just to bundle Vista with everything they sell. SP1 didn't change anything for me, and if anybody actually read the release notes, 50% of the fixes are related to security (uh......) and maybe 10% are towards compatibility, which none of the issues were fixed that I was having (forget compatibility mode, it works 0.2% of the time, lol) Anyway, I'm waiting for Windows 7. Hmm, I installed Vista on my computer and decided that I’d stick with it or go back to XP once SP1 comes out, well, bummer. I don’t really agree with Dave on that one simply because I’ve never had a hard time on Vista and I’m also a graphic designer, I prefer having My CONTROL and ALT work the way they should instead of having 2 bajillion keys to push just to get a “shortcut” going, but I guess that’s just how people get used to work. Vista doesn’t look tacky, come on! If anything looks tacky is Pre-tiger OSX and Windows XP default themes.

But in the end, seriously I went back to XP. Vista seriously blows and the only reason why it’s actually on the market is because all manufacturers are getting subsidised by Microsoft just to bundle Vista with everything they sell. SP1 didn’t change anything for me, and if anybody actually read the release notes, 50% of the fixes are related to security (uh……) and maybe 10% are towards compatibility, which none of the issues were fixed that I was having (forget compatibility mode, it works 0.2% of the time, lol)

Anyway, I’m waiting for Windows 7.

]]> By: whall http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-44132 whall Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:32:28 +0000 http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/#comment-44132 <b>Gally</b>, my gods, you're right. touche. Gally, my gods, you’re right. touche.

]]> By: Gally http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-44131 Gally Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:28:04 +0000 http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/#comment-44131 Um, s/ng/n', Frakking is Frakkin'. http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Frak Um, s/ng/n’, Frakking is Frakkin’. http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Frak

]]> By: whall http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-44130 whall Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:04:31 +0000 http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/#comment-44130 <b>martymankins</b>, if I had a mac, I'd have to learn it AND Vista. I am a Unix guy so maybe it wouldn't be that hard, assuming I can go as unixy as I would want... And I failed to mention that my first taste of Vista was just like yours - helping a friend/family member get their Vista box working and I was frustrated as all get out. And it was also due to networking. They should have included a start menu button entitled "used to XP? click here for help". <b>dmarks</b>, the built-in search for Vista is what I use and I love it. I haven't tried Google Desktop yet on Vista, so I can't vouch for it. <b>Dave2</b>, I have to point out a couple of errors in your tirade. Please permit me to constructively debate on this, and while I cannot debate about your hatred, at least I can debate on what you might be missing. Don't take this as a return lob in a flame war; think of it more like a negotiator in a hostage situation, trying to calm down the guy with the gun. I'm your friend, or at least I'd like to be. We can have an adult conversation if we both stick to relevant facts, and if we avoid tangents that bring no added value to the situation. Having said that, I'd like to start listing my comments to you, assuming you have an open mind. First of all - Frakking is spelled with two K's. Actually, that's it. Hopefully, we can get past the inanity of arguing and just understand one another. That's how we make progress. <b>BlondeBlogger</b>, you forgot the two l's. my blog name is 'whall' not 'wha' <b>Avitable</b>, You should ask how much ram Dave2 has in his MAC. <b>Michelle</b>, You heard negative things about Vista from Dave2? I don't believe you. martymankins, if I had a mac, I’d have to learn it AND Vista. I am a Unix guy so maybe it wouldn’t be that hard, assuming I can go as unixy as I would want…

And I failed to mention that my first taste of Vista was just like yours – helping a friend/family member get their Vista box working and I was frustrated as all get out. And it was also due to networking. They should have included a start menu button entitled “used to XP? click here for help”.

dmarks, the built-in search for Vista is what I use and I love it. I haven’t tried Google Desktop yet on Vista, so I can’t vouch for it.

Dave2, I have to point out a couple of errors in your tirade. Please permit me to constructively debate on this, and while I cannot debate about your hatred, at least I can debate on what you might be missing. Don’t take this as a return lob in a flame war; think of it more like a negotiator in a hostage situation, trying to calm down the guy with the gun. I’m your friend, or at least I’d like to be. We can have an adult conversation if we both stick to relevant facts, and if we avoid tangents that bring no added value to the situation.

Having said that, I’d like to start listing my comments to you, assuming you have an open mind.

First of all – Frakking is spelled with two K’s.

Actually, that’s it.

Hopefully, we can get past the inanity of arguing and just understand one another. That’s how we make progress.

BlondeBlogger, you forgot the two l’s. my blog name is ‘whall’ not ‘wha’

Avitable, You should ask how much ram Dave2 has in his MAC.

Michelle, You heard negative things about Vista from Dave2? I don’t believe you.

]]> By: Michelle http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-44129 Michelle Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:56:14 +0000 http://whall.org/blog/2008/06/10/open-letter-to-microsoft-vista-developers/#comment-44129 Well now. I just bought a new Dell and it has Vista, I'd heard nothing but horror stories about it - mainly from Dave2 - but I tell ya, for the relatively average 'puter user, I like it. No problems. Yet. If at all. :shrug: Michelles last blog post..<a href="http://heardinmycab.blogspot.com/2008/06/i-just-saw-guy-howling-at-moon.html" rel="nofollow">"I just saw a guy howling at the moon"</a> Well now. I just bought a new Dell and it has Vista, I’d heard nothing but horror stories about it – mainly from Dave2 – but I tell ya, for the relatively average ‘puter user, I like it. No problems. Yet. If at all. :shrug:

Michelles last blog post.."I just saw a guy howling at the moon"

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